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分享更正-umlchina聊天：《设计模式》作者John Vlissides
更正-umlchina聊天：《设计模式》作者John Vlissides
（原定9月13日的聊天，因大爆炸嘉宾alan cooper请求推迟，时间未知。）
北京时间2001年9月20日（星期四）21:00-23:00。（晚上）
嘉宾：John Vlissides，《设计模式》的四位作者之一，并著有另一本畅销书“Pattern Hatching”。现为IBM研究中心研究员。研究领域：面向对象软件设计工具和技术、设计模式、应用架构、界面设计...
交流重点：面向对象软件设计工具和技术、设计模式、应用架构、界面设计...
主持人：方春旭
交流建议：
1.大家把问题事先用英语准备好。
2.无论是提问，还是互相说话，请用英语。
网址：焦点网UMLChina小组聊天室（必须登录焦点网方可进入）
http://www.smiling.com.cn/group/homepage.ecgi?group_id=9986
如果你是新用户：
1. 先到http://www.smiling.com.cn，注册一个帐号。
2. 再到http://www.smiling.com.cn/search/groupinfo.ecgi?group_id=9986，加入umlchina小组。
3. 登录后，进入umlchina小组，然后点“聊天室”即可
聊天颜色约定：
提问及参与讨论：草原之蓝
嘉宾回答和主持人发言：正宗喜红
互相说话：绝对黑色
欢迎大家参加！我们每一位嘉宾都有最擅长的领域，建议大家在提问时能够围绕该领域，从而最大地受益！
播种机
http://www.umlchina.com
以往聊天实录
http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/Newindex1.htm
（原定9月13日的聊天，因大爆炸嘉宾alan cooper请求推迟，时间未知。）
北京时间2001年9月20日（星期四）21:00-23:00。（晚上）
嘉宾：John Vlissides，《设计模式》的四位作者之一，并著有另一本畅销书“Pattern Hatching”。现为IBM研究中心研究员。研究领域：面向对象软件设计工具和技术、设计模式、应用架构、界面设计...
交流重点：面向对象软件设计工具和技术、设计模式、应用架构、界面设计...
主持人：方春旭
交流建议：
1.大家把问题事先用英语准备好。
2.无论是提问，还是互相说话，请用英语。
网址：焦点网UMLChina小组聊天室（必须登录焦点网方可进入）
http://www.smiling.com.cn/group/homepage.ecgi?group_id=9986
如果你是新用户：
1. 先到http://www.smiling.com.cn，注册一个帐号。
2. 再到http://www.smiling.com.cn/search/groupinfo.ecgi?group_id=9986，加入umlchina小组。
3. 登录后，进入umlchina小组，然后点“聊天室”即可
聊天颜色约定：
提问及参与讨论：草原之蓝
嘉宾回答和主持人发言：正宗喜红
互相说话：绝对黑色
欢迎大家参加！我们每一位嘉宾都有最擅长的领域，建议大家在提问时能够围绕该领域，从而最大地受益！
播种机
http://www.umlchina.com
以往聊天实录
http://www.umlchina.com/Chat/Newindex1.htm
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青润 2001-09-20
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今天晚上，我一定参加！^&^
dbbdggdbbdgg 2001-09-19
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明天晚上（周四）和设计模式的作者交流，别忘了
eternalee 2001-09-17
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Thanks a lot!
explorer007 2001-09-17
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Thanks
dbbdggdbbdgg 2001-09-15
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昨天John Vlissides为20日的交流作演习的谈话片段
umlchina对johnvlissides说: How is the connect speed/(20:58)
zjgmaillist对大家说: Hi, John.(20:58)
johnvlissides对大家说: pleased to meet you, finally(20:58)
johnvlissides对大家说: connect speed is fine(20:59)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: Good!(20:59)
se_cn对johnvlissides说: nice to meee you(20:59)
johnvlissides对大家说: trying a new color...(20:59)
johnvlissides对大家说: how's that?(20:59)
johnvlissides对大家说: I like the music!(21:00)
好奇对johnvlissides说: good.(21:00)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: click a nickname in the left list, you can talk with a specific person(21:00)
johnvlissides对大家说: right...(21:00)
johnvlissides对hui001说: hellow, hui001(21:01)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: Professor, you can select the RED color.(21:01)
johnvlissides对umlchina说: I guess that if I want to broadcast to everyone,(21:01)
品雪对johnvlissides说: welcome! does chinese character trouble you?(21:06)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: To refresh screen by yourself(21:07)
johnvlissides对大家说: no trouble, exactly. just confusion(21:07)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: hi, welcome(21:09)
newtomme对大家说: cause i am always code the programme without oop anlysis and use any UML,but it's still runing as the old way(21:10)
johnvlissides对大家说: I'm still wondering how to broadcast(21:10)
johnvlissides对大家说: Some of my messages seem to have been dropped(21:10)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: i have read your great book "design pattern", it's great!(21:10)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: The book "design Pattern" is so famous in China(21:10)
johnvlissides对大家说: what browser do you all favor, IE or Netscape?(21:11)
品雪对johnvlissides说: that is great!(21:11)
se_cn对大家说: you are broadcasting(21:11)
johnvlissides对大家说: I think I'm getting the hang of this now(21:11)
johnvlissides对大家说: Thanks for all the kind words about Design Patterns(21:12)
johnvlissides对大家说: Do you have a Chinese version or an English version?(21:12)
品雪对johnvlissides说: hehe, I have a Chinese version text book and English version electrical book(21:13)
newtomme对大家说: i want to try the anlysis work and use the UML way,but i don't how to begin it(21:13)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: but i think all the Patterns are concluded, do you have some idea about deducing some (new) patterns?(21:13)
johnvlissides对大家说: newtomme: a good UML resource is Fowler's UML distilled(21:14)
品雪对johnvlissides说: How long does it take you to write that great book?(21:14)
johnvlissides对大家说: I recommend using UML as a notation for good design, not a process(21:14)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: i have bought three books, one for me and two for friends.(21:14)
品雪对johnvlissides说: wow, it should be do instead of does(21:15)
zjgmaillist对johnvlissides说: I am reading your book now. That's great! But in real world, I wonder how can I begin to use those patterns.(21:15)
johnvlissides对大家说: a good process for small-to-medium projects is Extreme Programming(21:15)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: [Broadcast]professor, in fact, everyone can read each word, so, no broadcast(21:15)
johnvlissides对大家说: especially if their requirements change a lot(21:15)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: two books to check out on how to use patterns:(21:17)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: If you want to answer someone's question, just click his nickname(21:17)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: my Pattern Hatching, and Shalloway's Design Patterns Explained(21:17)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: a couple of other books will be out in a month or two(21:17)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: Shalloway's Design Patterns Explained is being translated by us now!(21:18)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: great!(21:18)
johnvlissides对品雪说: it took about three years to write Design Patterns(21:19)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: i hear of a tool named DP++. And i think there are some theory about finding Patterns.(21:20)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: haven't heard of DP++(21:20)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: Who produced it?(21:20)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: let me find in bookmark:)(21:21)
zjgmaillist对johnvlissides说: Professor, How can I found those two books? Thanks. I only have a little knowledge of OO. So I am studying OO theory currently, using Booch's book. Is it OK?(21:21)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: can you order from Amazon.com?(21:22)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: Booch writes good books, generally(21:22)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: Shalloway's is particularly good for beginners(21:22)
zjgmaillist对johnvlissides说: Sorry, I cannot.(21:22)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: you can follow this URL to find out DP++: http://www.ddj.com/articles/1998/9806/9806a/9806a.htm?topic=patterns(21:22)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: oh, okay, now I remember that article(21:23)
newtomme对johnvlissides说: oh,how about the UML tools---Viso+bilzard+sql server,use them to build my system and the perior work(21:24)
song1234对大家说: friends,please tell me where I can find rose2000,thank you.(21:24)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: I found it hard to believe it could identify patterns in real programs to any useful degree(21:24)
umlchina对zjgmaillist说: Shalloway's is being translated by umlchina translation group, and will be published by 清华大学出版社(21:24)
johnvlissides对song1234说: have you checked out http://www.rational.com ?(21:25)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: oh, i havn't test it, but i think you are right.(21:25)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: that article is three years old, and I haven't seen any more mention of DP++ anywhere(21:26)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: Maybe I can get Addison-Wesley to send you a complimentag works fine, professor.(21:26)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: can you give me your e-mail(21:27)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: I'll have someone contact you(21:27)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: so, at present, how about finding new patterns, by hand or by machine?(21:27)
song1234对johnvlissides说: Thank you,but I could not download it from www.rational.com.Can you tell me a chinese URL?(21:27)
johnvlissides对umlchina说: yup, great fun(21:27)
johnvlissides对umlchina说: I guess that's it until the 20th(21:28)
johnvlissides对song1234说: True, but they might have information on how to order it.(21:28)
johnvlissides对song1234说: Then again, I don't know what their trade policies are...(21:29)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: OK!(21:29)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: by human brain :-)(21:29)
johnvlissides对大家说: Have to go now, folks. A pleasure meeting you all!(21:30)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: hehe(21:30)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: great meeting! thank you johnvlissides!(21:30)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: How is the connect speed/(20:58)
zjgmaillist对大家说: Hi, John.(20:58)
johnvlissides对大家说: pleased to meet you, finally(20:58)
johnvlissides对大家说: connect speed is fine(20:59)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: Good!(20:59)
se_cn对johnvlissides说: nice to meee you(20:59)
johnvlissides对大家说: trying a new color...(20:59)
johnvlissides对大家说: how's that?(20:59)
johnvlissides对大家说: I like the music!(21:00)
好奇对johnvlissides说: good.(21:00)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: click a nickname in the left list, you can talk with a specific person(21:00)
johnvlissides对大家说: right...(21:00)
johnvlissides对hui001说: hellow, hui001(21:01)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: Professor, you can select the RED color.(21:01)
johnvlissides对umlchina说: I guess that if I want to broadcast to everyone,(21:01)
品雪对johnvlissides说: welcome! does chinese character trouble you?(21:06)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: To refresh screen by yourself(21:07)
johnvlissides对大家说: no trouble, exactly. just confusion(21:07)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: hi, welcome(21:09)
newtomme对大家说: cause i am always code the programme without oop anlysis and use any UML,but it's still runing as the old way(21:10)
johnvlissides对大家说: I'm still wondering how to broadcast(21:10)
johnvlissides对大家说: Some of my messages seem to have been dropped(21:10)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: i have read your great book "design pattern", it's great!(21:10)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: The book "design Pattern" is so famous in China(21:10)
johnvlissides对大家说: what browser do you all favor, IE or Netscape?(21:11)
品雪对johnvlissides说: that is great!(21:11)
se_cn对大家说: you are broadcasting(21:11)
johnvlissides对大家说: I think I'm getting the hang of this now(21:11)
johnvlissides对大家说: Thanks for all the kind words about Design Patterns(21:12)
johnvlissides对大家说: Do you have a Chinese version or an English version?(21:12)
品雪对johnvlissides说: hehe, I have a Chinese version text book and English version electrical book(21:13)
newtomme对大家说: i want to try the anlysis work and use the UML way,but i don't how to begin it(21:13)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: but i think all the Patterns are concluded, do you have some idea about deducing some (new) patterns?(21:13)
johnvlissides对大家说: newtomme: a good UML resource is Fowler's UML distilled(21:14)
品雪对johnvlissides说: How long does it take you to write that great book?(21:14)
johnvlissides对大家说: I recommend using UML as a notation for good design, not a process(21:14)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: i have bought three books, one for me and two for friends.(21:14)
品雪对johnvlissides说: wow, it should be do instead of does(21:15)
zjgmaillist对johnvlissides说: I am reading your book now. That's great! But in real world, I wonder how can I begin to use those patterns.(21:15)
johnvlissides对大家说: a good process for small-to-medium projects is Extreme Programming(21:15)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: [Broadcast]professor, in fact, everyone can read each word, so, no broadcast(21:15)
johnvlissides对大家说: especially if their requirements change a lot(21:15)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: two books to check out on how to use patterns:(21:17)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: If you want to answer someone's question, just click his nickname(21:17)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: my Pattern Hatching, and Shalloway's Design Patterns Explained(21:17)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: a couple of other books will be out in a month or two(21:17)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: Shalloway's Design Patterns Explained is being translated by us now!(21:18)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: great!(21:18)
johnvlissides对品雪说: it took about three years to write Design Patterns(21:19)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: i hear of a tool named DP++. And i think there are some theory about finding Patterns.(21:20)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: haven't heard of DP++(21:20)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: Who produced it?(21:20)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: let me find in bookmark:)(21:21)
zjgmaillist对johnvlissides说: Professor, How can I found those two books? Thanks. I only have a little knowledge of OO. So I am studying OO theory currently, using Booch's book. Is it OK?(21:21)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: can you order from Amazon.com?(21:22)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: Booch writes good books, generally(21:22)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: Shalloway's is particularly good for beginners(21:22)
zjgmaillist对johnvlissides说: Sorry, I cannot.(21:22)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: you can follow this URL to find out DP++: http://www.ddj.com/articles/1998/9806/9806a/9806a.htm?topic=patterns(21:22)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: oh, okay, now I remember that article(21:23)
newtomme对johnvlissides说: oh,how about the UML tools---Viso+bilzard+sql server,use them to build my system and the perior work(21:24)
song1234对大家说: friends,please tell me where I can find rose2000,thank you.(21:24)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: I found it hard to believe it could identify patterns in real programs to any useful degree(21:24)
umlchina对zjgmaillist说: Shalloway's is being translated by umlchina translation group, and will be published by 清华大学出版社(21:24)
johnvlissides对song1234说: have you checked out http://www.rational.com ?(21:25)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: oh, i havn't test it, but i think you are right.(21:25)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: that article is three years old, and I haven't seen any more mention of DP++ anywhere(21:26)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: Maybe I can get Addison-Wesley to send you a complimentag works fine, professor.(21:26)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: can you give me your e-mail(21:27)
johnvlissides对zjgmaillist说: I'll have someone contact you(21:27)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: so, at present, how about finding new patterns, by hand or by machine?(21:27)
song1234对johnvlissides说: Thank you,but I could not download it from www.rational.com.Can you tell me a chinese URL?(21:27)
johnvlissides对umlchina说: yup, great fun(21:27)
johnvlissides对umlchina说: I guess that's it until the 20th(21:28)
johnvlissides对song1234说: True, but they might have information on how to order it.(21:28)
johnvlissides对song1234说: Then again, I don't know what their trade policies are...(21:29)
umlchina对johnvlissides说: OK!(21:29)
johnvlissides对sslxml说: by human brain :-)(21:29)
johnvlissides对大家说: Have to go now, folks. A pleasure meeting you all!(21:30)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: hehe(21:30)
sslxml对johnvlissides说: great meeting! thank you johnvlissides!(21:30)
sdyqingdao 2001-09-13
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等好长时间了
explorer007 2001-09-13
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我进不去啊?
怎么办?
怎么办?
zxyufan 2001-09-13
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分特~~我专门到公司来等了半天……下周吧~~
WindowsMe 2001-09-13
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星期四
K，刚才在UMLCHINA只看见这个了，还以为今天呢，失败，该回去吃饭了
K，刚才在UMLCHINA只看见这个了，还以为今天呢，失败，该回去吃饭了
青润 2001-09-13
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一定参加！
