(*向斑竹你提个小见意,大家最好都来看看,这个想法好不好!)

MrJohnson 2001-12-12 04:35:05

先向大家问个好,我只是一个PHP的初学者, 不过很喜欢PHP,而且也总来这里.好了不是费话了. 说说我的想法吧!
我想大家都知道自由软件了,为什么我们这些人不能像是自由软件一样.由某个人提出一个想法, 如果大家都觉得很好的话! 就可以一起来做呀!这样的话一来可以学得东西，二来可以真正的做出点东西，那么自然而然会有很多人来看的
这只是我一个想了很久的想法．不过考虑得还不够细比如，如何解决如果有人写的是错的怎么办，或者是版权问题什么的．这些都需要大家来解决，特别是斑竹。
好了，就说这么说吧！希望大家多说说，还有斑竹最好能谈谈意见，希望PHP的明天会更好！同时我也很想和大家交个朋友。　如果愿意的话　发E－MAIL给我吧！　
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zxyufan 2001-12-13

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可以呀~~~不过也不要老是把自己说成农民嘛`~~这会诱发我的自贬僻的~~

最近这段时间yorgo和我都比较忙，如果大家很有兴趣~~也可以不用yorgo和我带头~~自己组织的呀~~不过有个意见就是~~不要急着写代码~~在项目的初期（可能是很长一段时间）~~一定要克制自己写代码的欲望……:)

MrJohnson 2001-12-13

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可是我们有谁了解软件工程呢！我是不会！

zxyufan 2001-12-13

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OO既是面向对象，a既是分析，d既是设计，p既是编程。

一个系统是由几个actor和无数的use case组成的，虽然说几个use case也可以看做一个模块，很多个模块也可以组成一个系统，但是这样做是违背面向对象的，并且使得系统看上去支离破碎，不易维护。

MrJohnson 2001-12-13

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还请各个多多发表自已的意建吧！如果大家都同意的话。就说说我们应该具体怎么做呢！请斑竹多多关注这个话题，多多给些意建！SORRY，SORRY 再说一句,希望和大家交个朋友,以后能多多交流
好了,祝福大家快乐每一天！祝福的PHP的明天会更好

QQKiKi 2001-12-13

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斑竹的意思是按照软件工程的流程来做，而不要象初学者一上来就写程序，写错了再重来

MrJohnson 2001-12-13

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斑竹说“
不过有个意见就是~~不要急着写代码~~在项目的初期（可能是很长一段时间）~~一定要克制自己写代码的欲望……:) ”
你可以再说说那我们应该先做些什么呢！是定主题—》分模块—》做变量约定—》然后才是具体编代码吗？

MrJohnson 2001-12-13

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上面的那位兄弟，你可以把你说的GNU协议解释一下吗？是关于什么的，您在这说这个与PHP的有什么关系吗？小弟不才，请多多指教。

chestnuts 2001-12-13

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我声明：
有谁愿意组织这样的活动的，我坚决参加，咱称不上厉害，但是我有称霸全国php界的野心！
顶层的那个家伙，我告诉你了gnu协议，把分给我这个天才吧~~~
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈~~~
（啊！！！谁拿鸵鸟蛋扔我？？！！！）

chestnuts 2001-12-13

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卡！劝你去研究研究gnu的协议吧！你看看就明白了！http://www.linux.org/info/gnu.html
其实为什么中国至今还没有出现这样的组织是因为中国人素质太差！总有些人只改了老外的姓名主页和鸟语，却称这个软件是人家自己写的，而且要那些看着程序好的人5000大洋一套的！君不见盗版软件如此泛滥乎？君不见真正的php版权软件满大街都有的下乎（我承认发现的比较少，但是也确实有）？
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SORRY！斑竹什么是OOA，OOD，OOP呀
能不能解释一下。还有为什么我说的分模块不行呢!那么又应该怎么做呢.请指教

zxyufan 2001-12-13

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QQKiKi(KiKi)说的很对~~

其实yorgo跟我组织那个XML的项目的目的也不是为了让大家都学会怎么在php中使用XML，而是想让大家体会一下正规的项目流程是怎么样的。在PHP的水平达到一定的高度后，编码水平很难再往上走，这时候就应该去了解一下我们应该怎么更好的运用我们的知识。

我所说的在项目初期一定要克制自己写代码的欲望，意思就是大家在初期甚至更长一段时间内要做充分的分析和设计。
MrJohnson(求知)所说的“定主题—》分模块—》做变量约定—》然后才是具体编代码”，我觉得有可探讨之处。我不知道这里的“分模块”是指的什么，如果是“你做留言本，我做用户系统，你做论坛，他做购物车……”，这样是不可取的。我的意见是在编码之前，一切都是面向对象的，大家都知道OO的好处我也不多说了，只是可能有很多朋友不知道怎么去用，或者说没有去用他的意识。通过OOA、OOD，然后才是OOP。

MrJohnson 2001-12-13